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cRaShDoG

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Do you have any vinyl of Larry's that has never been released on CD? Do you want it on CD? I have used three different services for my vinyl transfers and i'd like to recommend them to you. They are all Christian run businesses and as far as I know they will not do secular albums.

1. www.mrscott777.com - This is the cheapest of the three. It's just $8.00 for the CD or $10.00 if you want artwork. However, the artwork only consists of the front cover and then they type the song titles on the back. It's nothing fancy, but this is a simple and affordable way to transfer your vinyl.  

2. www.spinone80.com - This is a decent transfer. They charge a hefty $16.00 per album or $19.00 with artwork. The artwork is full and includes inlays and inserts. No complaints about the transfers, just the price. However, transfer prices are reduced when you buy the vinyl directly from them.

3. http://www.one-way.org/jesusmusic/index.html This one is my personal favorite. Click on the 'LP to CD Transfers' link in the left hand column to see the technical details about the quality of the transfers (as well as an example picture). The sound quality is great, the artwork is great, and the $16.00 price is fair when you consider everything that you get. Best of all, this website focuses on the Jesus music of the 1970's!



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Anonymous

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How is this not piracy?....

Im all for sharing tapes and slides and even sending them through the mail....but, to make a profit off someone elses Music seems to be somethig else than right....

Do they get permission to do this from Larry's Ministry? If so it would be legit....


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cRaShDoG

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Anonymous wrote:


How is this not piracy?....

Im all for sharing tapes and slides and even sending them through the mail....but, to make a profit off someone elses Music seems to be somethig else than right....

Do they get permission to do this from Larry's Ministry? If so it would be legit....



they make it clear on the pages that if you want a transfer you must own the album....so they're not pirating anything al all. if you own an album you can legally make cd (and artwork) transfers for your own personal use. also, their charges are for the service they provide, so in all honesty they aren't really making money off of other peoples music.



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Anonymous

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Hi, it's really cheap to set up a computer and do the transfers yourself.  You just plug a computer into the stereo the same way you used to plug in a tape deck, then record using whatever software package you choose. Audacity is free, but I've been using Polderpits for years, and it didn't cost much.

When done, you have a set of music files which you burn to CD.

The entire setup costs less than $150 (turntable, software and cables)

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Curly

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Tacky topic.
I knew somebody would offer their coinage to the wolves.

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cRaShDoG

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Curly wrote:

Tacky topic.
I knew somebody would offer their coinage to the wolves.



If you're implying that i'm a part of these businesses, let me assure you that i'm not. I'm merely a music fan who appreciates services like this since I no longer own a record player and some of my albums have never been released on CD. I just thought other people might appreciate this kind of service too.  



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Anonymous

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Why not just pick up the CD's? Almost all of Larry's albums are still available at the Solid Rock Shoppe at www.larrynorman.com.

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cRaShDoG

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Anonymous wrote:

Why not just pick up the CD's? Almost all of Larry's albums are still available at the Solid Rock Shoppe at www.larrynorman.com.



No, I hate to tell you this but there's a ton of Larry's stuff that's never been released on CD yet. I won't sit here and name them all, but how about 'Barchaeology' for starters?

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Anonymous

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Not only that, but the CD versions aren't always the same. Heck I have three versions of So Long Ago The Garden (two on vinyl) that have different tracks and different versions of the same tracks.

Having said that, I'll be buying more of the CDs in the near future....just waiting to get paid.....  smile.gif

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whokilledduncan

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Actually, bArchaelogy has been released on CD.....

Rough Street Love Letter is a two disc, four album set containing Street Level, Rough Mix 3, Letter Of The Law and Labor Of Love.

Street Level has also more recently been released on CD in its own right.

Then there were the Illegal Noise releases of Street Level and Friends And Strangers. The former contained both versions of Street Level, and the latter contains side 1 of Rough Mix 3.


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Regarding these vinyl transfer services.....

I'm no copyright expert or anything, so please read these as just being my thoughts, good or bad, right or wrong.

As far as I'm aware, there is no 'fair use' law in the UK, so we can fall into sin more easily than Americans!

Now, if 'fair use' basically describes duplication for your own personal use, then I'm afraid I don't see how such service providers could claim that what they are doing falls under fair use. I doubt if they could convince a court that they are copying for their own use, when they are in fact marketing and selling those copies.

Then there are the prices....... At $8 or even $16 a pop they might need to sell two or three or four copies of a given album in order to claw back a reasonable hourly rate on the time it takes to create a master CD or file. (Assuming they master from vinyl or cassette and not from CD).


But once they get that far, how much does it cost per copy? Ten cents for a CDR, twenty cents for a case, thirty cents for paper and ink, fifteen minutes to burn the disc and prepare the artwork? A $16 fee would become almost all profit from the second copy made would it not.....

That's how I see it anyway.

Oh, and a year or two back I asked an American record company boss about this very subject. His immediate answer was 'no, of course it's not legal'.




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Anonymous

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whokilledduncan wrote:

Now, if 'fair use' basically describes duplication for your own personal use, then I'm afraid I don't see how such service providers could claim that what they are doing falls under fair use. I doubt if they could convince a court that they are copying for their own use, when they are in fact marketing and selling those copies.



all of these companies require you to mail your vinyl to them, they copy it for you, and then they mail it back to you along with your CD. they do not keep any duplicate copies for themselves.




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JOHN HOWIE

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Just buy a usb turntable ,plug into your computer and away you go. It's amazing what Records you can pick up in second hand shops. I've found a few treasures!

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Robb

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Thanks, cRaShDoG--not sure I capitalized the correct letters--for bringing this info to the table.  I recall back in the day when it was common to make cassette dubs of favorite records to play in the car, boombox, et al, so dubbing a record to CD, whether by a service or yourself, achieves the same result and isn't that the purpose of buying the record--to hear the songs?  I have yet to dub any of my records to CD, but I plan to do so one of these days--recently at Guitar Center, I bought a turntable which has a line for sending audio to a computer for digital dubs.  And thanks, CrAsHdAwG, for your enthusiasm for Larry on these boards :)   

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Tom

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I also have bought a Numark turntable from Guitar Center and was using it to convert vinyl to a more convenient media, i.e. cds or in the past, cassettes.  Because I own the vinyls and use the cds only for my personal use in my car, I'm sure Larry wouldn't mind.  I do have about 15 of his works and plan to buy as many of the ones I don't have as soon as I can. ( By the way, I've seen Larry's cds on sale at Amazon.com for very high prices, and I'm sure the family may not be aware of it)

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